Narasimha das Replies to Rocana dasa
November 15, 2003
Dear Rocana,
Hare Krishna. Jai Prabhupada.
Yasoda Nandan and Puranjan have already answered your challenges point by
point. I may do so also, eventually. It's really not a priority for me. You fail
to raise even one valid philosophical point about diksa, iniations, or the
proper way of preaching and following Prabhupada. Rather you seem more interested
in creating some controversy.
As far as we are concerned, we simply want to accept the system for iniations
that Srila Prabhupada personally implemented and instructed. WE feel this is
the best position. We are not interested in endless debates with those who
reject Srila Prabhupada's example and specific instructions in this regard. I am
sorry you were offended by what I wrote to you so far. Those who know my
writing thought I was very restrained, under the circumstances. I find it hard to
be polite to such persons as yourself who are diehard advocates of the idea
that any neophyte preacher-guru wanabe can disobey Srila Prabhupada's specific
directions regarding initiations in iskcon. Although some people suggest that
Lord Caitanya gave some blanket authorization for everyone to become gurus by
preaching, there is difference between a simple preacher and a Vaisnava Acarya
who is worshipped like Hari.
Yasoda was very kind in his repy to you so far. If I take the trouble to repy
to you at length, it won't be quite so tactful. I see many defects in almost
every one of your statements, most of which avoid any conclusion of guru,
sastra, and sadhu but sound rather like mundane academia and gossip-- in other
words, not very serious philosophical arguments.
Regarding debate: It is only possible for serious followers of Vedic culture.
I have repeatedly noticed in our numerous discusssions with persons like
yourself, that they have a very hard time sticking to Vedic siddhanta or even
common sense logic, and thus they constantly bring irrevelant ideas, like
suggesting that ritviks are wrong because they have a siddhanta similar to
Christians. This is just one example of false logic you and the gbc employ. Srila
Prabhupada repeatedly condemned the Christians, not for following Christ or
worshipping him exclusively, but for deliberately ignoriing some of his instructions,
as the gbc and others are doing as a matter policy. Not only are they ingoring
but campaigning viciously against these instructions, lying and even
blaspheming by suggesting that mahabhagavatas are ordinary men who make mistakes,
offer incomplete instructions, or are sometimes vague regarding their intentions,
ect. ect.
The other problem with dishonest persons bred of the gbc is that they create
the classic straw man by defeating arguments never made by the opposite party.
I saw many examples of this in your letter. Either you are dishonest or you
have not bothered to carefully study "The Prabhuapada Book", which clearly and
exhaustively deleniates the philosophy of Krishna consciousness with much
sastric evidence. So if you want to debate me personally, I suggest we meet in the
deep forest and settle matters one on one. Otherwise we need some impartial
executive authority present to despense justice after the debate. The loser is
usually obligated to surrender to the victor and become his bonded servant or
disciple. Or alternatively, he may accept suicide or execution. At least in
South India, as recently as a hundred years ago, people took siddhanta and
false preachers quite seriously. In Vedic culture there were serious consequences
for preaching against siddhanta, or the order of the Acarya. Today, however,
we have invented freedom of speech and freedom to go to hell in the express
lane.
Sincerely,
Narasimha das