Bir Krishna Goswami and Croatian Yatra

BY: SUN STAFF

Apr 16, 2015 — CANADA (SUN) —

A few years ago Bir Krishna Goswami was reportedly "persuaded" to resign as GBC in Croatia. However, recently Bir Krishna has been pushing Sundarananda Prabhu, who is mentioned frequently in the following text. Some devotees are of the opinion that the Goswami is politicking through Sundarananda to get back his position as GBC in Croatia.

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Letter PAMHO:27552643 (259 lines) [W1] {I4}
From: Internet: "Kristina Kokolic"
Date: 12-Apr-15 14:44 -0400 (20:44 +0200)
To: Bhakti Vikasa Swami [189181]
To: Bhaktivaibhava Swami [53249]
To: "Bir Krishna Goswami"
To: Kavicandra Swami (GBC Japan) [138064] (received: 12-Apr-15 14:49 -0400)
To: Prahladananda Swami [152936] (received: 12-Apr-15 14:47 -0400)
To: Sacinandana Swami [43680]
To: Dina Sharana (dasi) ACBSP (Wiesbaden - DE) [28977] (received: 12-Apr-15 15:46 -0400)
To: GBC EC [87747] (received: 12-Apr-15 17:14 -0400)
To: Manohara das (Radhadesh - BE) [48737] (forwarded: 12-Apr-15 14:50 -0400)
To: "Radha Krisna das"
To: krishnakshetra@gmail.com
To: hamburg2831951@gmail.com
To: Euro RGB EC (Executive Committee) [5850]
Cc: EC [44803] (sender: Radha Sundari (dd) RNS (Secretary GBC EC))
Comment: Text PAMHO:27556942 by Bhakti Vikasa Swami
Comment: Text PAMHO:27559342 by Manohara das (Radhadesh - BE)
Attached: 27552643.eml (31804 bytes) "Original email file"
Subject: from Zagreb (Croation)

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Dear all,

Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

My name is Kurangi dd and I`m 39 years old. I was 16 years old when I started to associate with devotees, and I practically grew up in this movement. My husband served in Zagreb, Zurich and Los Angeles ISKCON temples. Today we run a business and raise our four children. 5,6 years ago I have started with process Dadhibaksa d, Dinanatha d and Ripuha d...some of You may remember that...

What is my reason for sending you a letter at this particular time?

- First, with all due respect, I would like to mention HH Bir Krsna Goswami. I respect and admire him for a lot of things, but I also find that Bir Krsna Goswami easily puts his trust in people, often believes their assertions and protects them without sufficient examination and inquiry. Proof for this: After I gave him documents composed by a lawyer which proved that there was illegal money laundering transactions done by Dadhibaksa d, Dinanatha d and Ripuha d, he rather chose to believe their false story. Furthermore, he did not make any attempt to inspect and examine the case. Therefore, my conclusion was that his reaction was hasty. My opinion based on this experience regarding current problems in Zagreb temple is that Bir Krsna Goswami maybe needs to check this whole new situation again more thoroughly and carefully before making his conclusion..

-All these years have been observing and witnessing what is happening in our community of devotees. Even 5-6 years ago it was very clear that Sundarananda d does not live according to principles given by Srila Prabhupada. At that time, Sundarananda d was very much engaged in campaign against Dadhibaksa d, Ripuha d and Dinanatha d, because he had his own private interest in whole affair. He wanted to take over Zagreb ISKCON temple and to rule there unrestricted and unsupervised.

These are well known facts - there are many evidences and witnesses of his deviant behavior while he was temple president: specifically, his vision and maintenance of Zg Temple allowed unqualified people to live there.

-he brought his wife (now ex) there and made everyone residing in temple to tolerate her excessive behavior (she was screaming, offending devotees, eventually throwing Krsna`s pictures through the window...).

-shortly after, he had love affair with Mdd. Their relationship included sex. I personally saw him in her room.

-he allowed bhn S. to live in a temple and smoke cigarettes behind the temple.

-he also let in M2 dd with purpose of getting rid her smoking habits.

-one mataji bhn.V was sexually active during that time, and he ignored that despite the warning about her style of living (one ISKCON leader from Sarajevo acquainted him with the facts)

-there was also this "weird" relationship with bhn. Anamarija. They were seen lot of times together alone. Me (and my children) witnessed her cursing and screaming while talking with Sundarananda d. She used to call him "Frajeru!" (meaning something like good looking guy, seducer) in front of devotees. There are also few incidents reported when he slapped her!

-he allowed mataji with a child to live in the temple and she is cooking in temple kitchen ready made soups from supermarket which had on their package clearly written it contained eggs! She watches soap-operas and prepares in the temple kitchen non-Ekadasi food (pasta) during Ekadasi, for her teenage daughter. The girl (daughter) does not attend any program in temple and she witnessed many deviations and incidents that took place there. Naturally, she is not attracted to Krsna Consciousness. As a mother of four, I can tell that the girl is living in unhealthy atmosphere. Her behaviour in public school gives bad reputation to ISKCON devotees and to the children of all devotees who are part of this community. The girl puts provocative photos in mini skirts and with provocative poses on social networks (Facebook) receiving adult men comments. Unsuitable for her age and for a vaishnavi.

-different profiles of people were allowed to live in a temple. students, people with regular jobs outside the temple and under Sundarananda d authority, temple got status of something like hotel. A cheap place to live for people with bad material situation, lonely ones and sick.

-they all paid some rent and our temple functioned in that way for many years. Close look under the surface revealed shameful truth. Maybe some temporary guests could be deceived, but not us who witnessed everything in a longer period of time.

-Mataji Adhika spent one period of her life living in the temple and then she willingly left and spent seven years living with her friends (Andhaka d and Jayasri dd). After she quarrelled and separated from them, Sundarananda d offered her to stay and live in the temple. She accepted and Sundarananda invented new temple rule that matajis are not obliged to go on Mangala Arati. In this way Adhika could easily keep her style of living, working outside the temple and earning for her expences.

The most sad fact is that all these temple devotees would stay in their rooms during Sunday Feasts or would go to town and come back afterwards. Khichri leftovers from breakfast would sometimes be served as a main Sunday Feast prasadam preparation. Once I asked Sundarananda d why doesn't he manage the cooking of proper feast for SF program, his answer was: "It would be a waste of money."

CONCLUSION

Dear respected Vaishnavas. These are some details of Sundarananda d temple standards.

Maybe your question would be. Why no one reported that before? Everyone in the temple had to keep quiet because they were aware that SND is making them a favor by giving them a food and a nice place to live for little money by which he could cover the expenses and make an illusion that temple is functioning just fine.

Why is it necessary at this moment to bring out the past? It is necessary because there are allegations and petitions against positive changes in the temple (changes supervised by HH Prahladananda Swami). These allegations are just a show, led by few devotees who are convinced that Sundarananda d way of managing and functioning was the essence of Bhakti Yoga . to spread love to everyone (off course, with their own definition and vision of such "love"). Four regulative principles and standards for temple life they call aggression.

HH PRAHLADANANDA SWAMI

Personally, I tracked and watched GBC's, Prahladananda Maharaja's actions. My only motive was not allowing myself to become a blind person and follower in some institution. And I always say, as a mother I thoroughly check the school my children are going to. In this manner I will always check up this community of devotees that I am part of. Not for the motive of searching for mistakes, but only for the reason that I want to stay here with you. I dont want to leave, ever and I will always fight for what Srila Prabhupada left to us.

To continue... Prahladananda Swami. I tracked his actions and I admit that he acts very thoughtful, cautious and intelligent. He received lot of information, but he checked them all personally and accepted only the facts. He is very considerate and tactical person. I think he is well informed about Sundarananda d deviations and that he is acquainted with all proofs and witnesses.

And above all, he had more than enough foundation to throw Sundarananda d out of the temple, but he created a board and put Sundarananda in that board giving him an opportunity to advance if he desires, giving him a chance.

To mtj Adhika he gave a period of year and a half, long enough for her to show some cooperation, some responsibility for her own spiritual life.

There was no question of any fanaticism and maltreatment except if your opinion is that standards given by Srila Prabhupada are fanatical or that the standards required for temple devotees are abuse and maltreatment.

REVIEW OF THE SITUATION

-Facts about Sundarananda d behaviour should be presented to all devotees. Then most of the devotees who agreed to sign the petition against temple board would reexamine what they signed for in a first place. They are probably led by idea of installing the standards Sundarananda had before - meaning, no decent standards and authority at all.

-Mtj Adhika wants to earn her money working in the city and doesn't not want to attend programs and follow the standards. She doesn't respect authorities. Her moral and spiritual values are questionable because she witnessed Sundarananda d deviations and did not react at all.

-Temple board stated that all devotees who desire to live following standards given by Srila Prabhupada, are most welcome in the temple. I don't see any aggression here. Is it aggression and fanaticism to ask from a young man, brahmacari (Jananivasa d) to rise up half an hour earlier in the morning for a next few months, instead of getting up after 7 or 8? He rejected that proposition and decided to leave the temple.

-Current situation in the temple is praiseworthy. Now we have Sunday Feast programs with plenty of prasadam preparations, matajis and prabhus are sitting separately, we have new devotees living in the temple, Sunday Feast school and workshops for children, harinams, book distribution, plenty of preaching programs. All these are normal activities in service of the Lord, but for us who watched Sundarananda d terrorizing over years, these activities are real enlivenment. Thanks to GBC and temple board.

I also need to mention the congregation - us who have children, who are working and giving donations. I'm just trying to imagine all those years and all those donations given for purpose of spreading the mission, which were misused for maintaining of lazy, morally and spiritually indifferent people. At this moment, some of these people are still living in a temple. Their great expertise is ability to look you straight in the eyes and tell you lies at the same time.

But, to differentiate between the truth and a lie, good intelligence is required. Srila Prabhupada said that intelligent person is one who can recognize what is bad and what is good. In this case our criteria are set by Srila Prabhupada. This is the filter showing what is proper behavior. Even if a person is facing some problems and slips...Ok, we need to be sensitive to that. But one needs to have clear motive and goal. Our motive is spreading Krsna consciousness, our goal is going back home, back to Godhead. Srila Prabhupada gave us directions.

Following this, I humbly request that mataji Adhika quits her job and earning money outside the temple. That she make a plan for improvement of her sadhana, so that she can gradually reach the standard of coming regularly to mangala-arati, morning programs, lectures etc.

And, off course, when congregational members are coming to Sunday Feast programs, she is either in town or locked inside her room. Wouldn't it be nice , proper and normal that she dresses herself in a saree and welcomes the guests? Would it be proper for me to invite guests to my home and then lock myself in the room or go outside? Not to greet them and to ignore them?

Her excuse of being ill, I cannot understand this. What illness allows someone for easily going to the town, working, making money...for years? While on the same time, this ilness progresses and endangers a person if he or she gets up early and goes one floor downstairs to attend temple programs. This ilness is called Maya... Srila Prabhupada gave clear instructions what are obligations and standards for brahmacaries, what for grhastas. Who is suitable for living in the temple, and who is not. Everything is clear.

If she doesn't have a plan or a goal to improve, I humbly request that she goes and lives outside the temple. Otherwise, me and many others are just feeling like plain fools, financially supporting the temple and people who are not engaged in the mission! What is our benefit then? There is not any.

-Dear respected Vaishnavas, if you require a petition and signatures for my statements...no problem. Sundarananda d "pastimes" can become public. Considerate temple board and GBC spared him from public disgrace and gave him a chance for staying in temple board...

Children needs to be corrected and focused. In that way they know that you care. Children who are raised in such a manner to become a healthy, normal people and leaders. But if you spare them and not properly correct, you are raising spoiled brats - like Sundarananda d became and people who support his ways. For example, Dadhibaksa was corrected at the time. But eventually he stayed in the association of devotees, took a shelter of a guru, and looks satisfied and happy in devotional service.

Please, don't condemn my attempt to be straightforward. I still have no personal motives towards mentioned devotees. I neither had one in the case Dadhibaksa d, Ripuha d, Dinanatha d. I do not have any ambitions to become a leader. I'm a leader to my children, that is enough for me. But I will never keep quiet, because silence means approval.

Thank you for reading this letter.

All the best,

Your servant Kurangi dd
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Letter PAMHO:27560793 (128 lines) [W1] {I4}
From: Internet: "Kristina Kokolic"
Date: 14-Apr-15 20:46 -0400 (02:46 +0200)
To: Bhakti Vikasa Swami [189209]
To: Bhaktivaibhava Swami [53267]
To: "Bir Krishna Goswami"
To: Kavicandra Swami (GBC Japan) [138094]
To: Prahladananda Swami [153023] (received: 14-Apr-15 21:12 -0400)
To: Sacinandana Swami [43693]
To: Dina Sharana (dasi) ACBSP (Wiesbaden - DE) [29009] (received: 14-Apr-15 21:26 -0400)
To: GBC EC [87820] (received: 14-Apr-15 21:27 -0400)
To: "Gunnar Reimann"
To: "Kenneth Valpey"
To: Manohara das (Radhadesh - BE) [48789] (forwarded: 14-Apr-15 20:50 -0400)
To: "Radha Krisna das"
To: Euro RGB EC (Executive Committee) [5854]
Attached: 27560793.eml (23828 bytes) "Original email file"
Subject: FYI

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Dear everybody and dear Bir Krishna Goswami,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All gloeries to Srila Prabhupada!

I received this email from Bir Krishna Goswami, in which he stated that I was not speaking the truth.

The fact is that when I had given him documents and proofs from the lawyer, he was trying to convince me that this was not true. However, I still have the audio recording of my conversation with BKG when documents were presented to him. I will be glad to send this to everybody if BKG allows it. In addition I have the audio recording of ista-gosti and more evidences. Unfortunately, at that time I had to protect myself. What strength would have my word against word of guru or GBC? But proofs and evidences are different, it is now their own words against themselves.

Some of you might remember what happened at that time and know more details, especially Kavicandra Swami and Brahma-Tirtha prabhu (USA) with whom I spent hours and hours discussing that situation. It was not my intention now to go back so much to history, but for everything I wrote I have evidence, including audio recordings and written materials.

My mail which I had sent only to you, who are the members of investigation team and relevant senior devotees, Bir Krishna Goswami forwarded to Sundarananda d with remark that I was not talking the truth. After that, Sundarananda sent this letter to a group of devotees, with the quote from BKG who is asking why do I lie. As a consequence some of them contacted me, being disturbed. And of course, they trusted Sundarananda d who reffered to the statements of BKG... But fortunately the Lord Krishna knows everything.

What can I say now? Thank you Bir Krishna Goswami maharaja for first asking me for clarification and then forwarding my mail and writing to others before I even had any chance to reply. This what I had written, my first mail, I sent it to you too. I am not a person doing things behind someone's back. Neither do I have any type of position to use it. I don't think it was proper to forward my mail and comment like this. What am I supposed to do now, to send audio recordings to whole Croatia to prove the truth?

Those who want to see the truth, they will see it. Our deeds tell better than words. By acting in this way, maharaja only expressed the type of behaviour which I explained in my first mail.

Dear Bir Krishna Goswami, was this the win-win solution or the attempt of yours and Sundarananda's to disqualify me, to try stopping me from telling the truth? Does it not look like a good example of how we imidiatelly use the position in order to protect ourself, how we easyly use our position to"squash" another person for our protection? But why not to use this same position to correct someone when the philosophy and teachings of Srila Prabhupada should be protected, why not to squash someone's obvious deviations from the Srila Prabhupada's teachings, why in this case win-win solution is preffered to save someone who deviates?

I am sorry it happened like this, it was not my intention. My intention was to present the relevant facts to the committee, and to give my view what is reason behind the current situation in Zagreb temple and Croatia. I did not write to the whole community, I presented my views only to you who are trusted and responsible senior devotees. In my mail I wrote the facts and can provide evidences, the situation in Zagreb is clear. Solution for such situation was given by Srila Prabhupada, and that is the standards which temple residents must follow. Please protect these standards.

Eventually, I feel important to point out, that my remark regarding BKG maharaja was only in connection with his managerial role, his not reacting timely to obvious deviations in the past, and now... I still respect and appreciate him very much as our spiritual master and as a person who dedicated his entire life for preaching.

ys Kurangi dd

Od: "b kgoswami"

Datum: 14. travnja 2015. u 00:31:12 CEST
Za: "'Kristina Kokolic'"
Predmet: RE: from Zagreb (Croation)

Just wondering why you told something that is not true to these people. I did accept what you told me about the money situation and did remove the persons you mentioned. There are many witnesses to this, including the CNC.

Is there a reason why you did not tell the truth?

- First, with all due respect, I would like to mention HH Bir Krsna Goswami. I respect and admire him for a lot of things, but I also find that Bir Krsna Goswami easily puts his trust in people, often believes their assertions and protects them without sufficient examination and inquiry.

Proof for this: After I gave him documents composed by a lawyer which proved that there was illegal money laundering transactions done by Dadhibaksa d, Dinanatha d and Ripuha d, he rather chose to believe their false story. Furthermore, he did not make any attempt to inspect and examine the case.

Therefore, my conclusion was that his reaction was hasty. My opinion based on this experience regarding current problems in Zagreb temple is that Bir Krsna Goswami maybe needs to check this whole new situation again more thoroughly and carefully before making his conclusion..

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