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Cc: EC [44803] (sender: Radha Sundari (dd) RNS (Secretary GBC EC))
Comment: Text PAMHO:27556942 by Bhakti Vikasa Swami
Comment: Text PAMHO:27559342 by Manohara das (Radhadesh - BE)
Attached: 27552643.eml (31804 bytes) "Original email file"
Subject: from Zagreb (Croation)
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Dear all,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
My name is Kurangi dd and I`m 39 years old. I was 16 years old when I
started to associate with devotees, and I practically grew up in this
movement. My husband served in Zagreb, Zurich and Los Angeles ISKCON
temples. Today we run a business and raise our four children. 5,6 years ago
I have started with process Dadhibaksa d, Dinanatha d and Ripuha d...some of
You may remember that...
What is my reason for sending you a letter at this particular time?
- First, with all due respect, I would like to mention HH Bir Krsna
Goswami. I respect and admire him for a lot of things, but I also find that
Bir Krsna Goswami easily puts his trust in people, often believes their
assertions and protects them without sufficient examination and inquiry.
Proof for this: After I gave him documents composed by a lawyer which proved
that there was illegal money laundering transactions done by Dadhibaksa d,
Dinanatha d and Ripuha d, he rather chose to believe their false story.
Furthermore, he did not make any attempt to inspect and examine the case.
Therefore, my conclusion was that his reaction was hasty. My opinion based
on this experience regarding current problems in Zagreb temple is that Bir
Krsna Goswami maybe needs to check this whole new situation again more
thoroughly and carefully before making his conclusion..
-All these years have been observing and witnessing what is happening in our
community of devotees. Even 5-6 years ago it was very clear that
Sundarananda d does not live according to principles given by Srila
Prabhupada. At that time, Sundarananda d was very much engaged in campaign
against Dadhibaksa d, Ripuha d and Dinanatha d, because he had his own
private interest in whole affair. He wanted to take over Zagreb ISKCON
temple and to rule there unrestricted and unsupervised.
These are well known facts - there are many evidences and witnesses of his
deviant behavior while he was temple president: specifically, his vision and maintenance of Zg Temple allowed unqualified
people to live there.
-he brought his wife (now ex) there and made everyone residing in temple to
tolerate her excessive behavior (she was screaming, offending devotees,
eventually throwing Krsna`s pictures through the window...).
-shortly after, he had love affair with Mdd. Their relationship included
sex. I personally saw him in her room.
-he allowed bhn S. to live in a temple and smoke cigarettes behind the
temple.
-he also let in M2 dd with purpose of getting rid her smoking habits.
-one mataji bhn.V was sexually active during that time, and he ignored that
despite the warning about her style of living (one ISKCON leader from
Sarajevo acquainted him with the facts)
-there was also this "weird" relationship with bhn. Anamarija. They were
seen lot of times together alone. Me (and my children) witnessed her cursing
and screaming while talking with Sundarananda d. She used to call him
"Frajeru!" (meaning something like good looking guy, seducer) in front of
devotees. There are also few incidents reported when he slapped her!
-he allowed mataji with a child to live in the temple and she is cooking in
temple kitchen ready made soups from supermarket which had on their package
clearly written it contained eggs! She watches soap-operas and prepares in
the temple kitchen non-Ekadasi food (pasta) during Ekadasi, for her teenage
daughter. The girl (daughter) does not attend any program in temple and she
witnessed many deviations and incidents that took place there. Naturally,
she is not attracted to Krsna Consciousness. As a mother of four, I can
tell that the girl is living in unhealthy atmosphere. Her behaviour in
public school gives bad reputation to ISKCON devotees and to the children of
all devotees who are part of this community. The girl puts provocative
photos in mini skirts and with provocative poses on social networks
(Facebook) receiving adult men comments. Unsuitable for her age and for a
vaishnavi.
-different profiles of people were allowed to live in a temple. students,
people with regular jobs outside the temple and under Sundarananda d
authority, temple got status of something like hotel. A cheap place to live
for people with bad material situation, lonely ones and sick.
-they all paid some rent and our temple functioned in that way for many
years. Close look under the surface revealed shameful truth. Maybe some
temporary guests could be deceived, but not us who witnessed everything in a
longer period of time.
-Mataji Adhika spent one period of her life living in the temple and then
she willingly left and spent seven years living with her friends (Andhaka d
and Jayasri dd). After she quarrelled and separated from them, Sundarananda
d offered her to stay and live in the temple. She accepted and Sundarananda
invented new temple rule that matajis are not obliged to go on Mangala
Arati. In this way Adhika could easily keep her style of living, working
outside the temple and earning for her expences.
The most sad fact is that all these temple devotees would stay in their
rooms during Sunday Feasts or would go to town and come back afterwards.
Khichri leftovers from breakfast would sometimes be served as a main Sunday
Feast prasadam preparation. Once I asked Sundarananda d why doesn't he
manage the cooking of proper feast for SF program, his answer was: "It would
be a waste of money."
CONCLUSION
Dear respected Vaishnavas. These are some details of Sundarananda d temple
standards.
Maybe your question would be. Why no one reported that before? Everyone
in the temple had to keep quiet because they were aware that SND is making
them a favor by giving them a food and a nice place to live for little money
by which he could cover the expenses and make an illusion that temple is
functioning just fine.
Why is it necessary at this moment to bring out the past?
It is necessary because there are allegations and petitions against positive
changes in the temple (changes supervised by HH Prahladananda Swami).
These allegations are just a show, led by few devotees who are convinced
that Sundarananda d way of managing and functioning was the essence of
Bhakti Yoga . to spread love to everyone (off course, with their own
definition and vision of such "love"). Four regulative principles and standards for temple life they call
aggression.
HH PRAHLADANANDA SWAMI
Personally, I tracked and watched GBC's, Prahladananda Maharaja's actions.
My only motive was not allowing myself to become a blind person and follower
in some institution.
And I always say, as a mother I thoroughly check the school my children are
going to.
In this manner I will always check up this community of devotees that I am
part of. Not for the motive of searching for mistakes, but only for the
reason that I want to stay here with you.
I dont want to leave, ever and I will always fight for what Srila
Prabhupada left to us.
To continue... Prahladananda Swami. I tracked his actions and I admit that
he acts very thoughtful, cautious and intelligent. He received lot of
information, but he checked them all personally and accepted only the facts.
He is very considerate and tactical person. I think he is well informed
about Sundarananda d deviations and that he is acquainted with all proofs
and witnesses.
And above all, he had more than enough foundation to throw Sundarananda d
out of the temple, but he created a board and put Sundarananda in that board
giving him an opportunity to advance if he desires, giving him a chance.
To mtj Adhika he gave a period of year and a half, long enough for her to
show some cooperation, some responsibility for her own spiritual life.
There was no question of any fanaticism and maltreatment except if your
opinion is that standards given by Srila Prabhupada are fanatical or that
the standards required for temple devotees are abuse and maltreatment.
REVIEW OF THE SITUATION
-Facts about Sundarananda d behaviour should be presented to all devotees.
Then most of the devotees who agreed to sign the petition against temple
board would reexamine what they signed for in a first place. They are
probably led by idea of installing the standards Sundarananda had before -
meaning, no decent standards and authority at all.
-Mtj Adhika wants to earn her money working in the city and doesn't not
want to attend programs and follow the standards. She doesn't respect
authorities. Her moral and spiritual values are questionable because she
witnessed Sundarananda d deviations and did not react at all.
-Temple board stated that all devotees who desire to live following
standards given by Srila Prabhupada, are most welcome in the temple. I
don't see any aggression here.
Is it aggression and fanaticism to ask from a young man, brahmacari
(Jananivasa d) to rise up half an hour earlier in the morning for a next
few months, instead of getting up after 7 or 8? He rejected that
proposition and decided to leave the temple.
-Current situation in the temple is praiseworthy.
Now we have Sunday Feast programs with plenty of prasadam preparations,
matajis and prabhus are sitting separately, we have new devotees living in
the temple, Sunday Feast school and workshops for children, harinams, book
distribution, plenty of preaching programs.
All these are normal activities in service of the Lord, but for us who
watched Sundarananda d terrorizing over years, these activities are real
enlivenment. Thanks to GBC and temple board.
I also need to mention the congregation - us who have children, who are
working and giving donations. I'm just trying to imagine all those years and
all those donations given for purpose of spreading the mission, which were
misused for maintaining of lazy, morally and spiritually indifferent people.
At this moment, some of these people are still living in a temple. Their
great expertise is ability to look you straight in the eyes and tell you
lies at the same time.
But, to differentiate between the truth and a lie, good intelligence is
required. Srila Prabhupada said that intelligent person is one who can
recognize what is bad and what is good. In this case our criteria are set by
Srila Prabhupada. This is the filter showing what is proper behavior. Even
if a person is facing some problems and slips...Ok, we need to be sensitive
to that. But one needs to have clear motive and goal.
Our motive is spreading Krsna consciousness, our goal is going back home,
back to Godhead. Srila Prabhupada gave us directions.
Following this, I humbly request that mataji Adhika quits her job and
earning money outside the temple. That she make a plan for improvement of
her sadhana, so that she can gradually reach the standard of coming
regularly to mangala-arati, morning programs, lectures etc.
And, off course, when congregational members are coming to Sunday Feast
programs, she is either in town or locked inside her room. Wouldn't it be
nice , proper and normal that she dresses herself in a saree and welcomes
the guests? Would it be proper for me to invite guests to my home and then
lock myself in the room or go outside? Not to greet them and to ignore them?
Her excuse of being ill, I cannot understand this. What illness allows
someone for easily going to the town, working, making money...for years?
While on the same time, this ilness progresses and endangers a person if he
or she gets up early and goes one floor downstairs to attend temple
programs. This ilness is called Maya...
Srila Prabhupada gave clear instructions what are obligations and standards
for brahmacaries, what for grhastas.
Who is suitable for living in the temple, and who is not. Everything is
clear.
If she doesn't have a plan or a goal to improve, I humbly request that she
goes and lives outside the temple.
Otherwise, me and many others are just feeling like plain fools,
financially supporting the temple and people who are not engaged in the
mission! What is our benefit then? There is not any.
-Dear respected Vaishnavas, if you require a petition and signatures for my
statements...no problem. Sundarananda d "pastimes" can become public.
Considerate temple board and GBC spared him from public disgrace and gave
him a chance for staying in temple board...
Children needs to be corrected and focused. In that way they know that you
care. Children who are raised in such a manner to become a healthy, normal
people and leaders.
But if you spare them and not properly correct, you are raising spoiled
brats - like Sundarananda d became and people who support his ways. For
example, Dadhibaksa was corrected at the time. But eventually he stayed in
the association of devotees, took a shelter of a guru, and looks satisfied
and happy in devotional service.
Please, don't condemn my attempt to be straightforward. I still have no
personal motives towards mentioned devotees. I neither had one in the case
Dadhibaksa d, Ripuha d, Dinanatha d.
I do not have any ambitions to become a leader. I'm a leader to my children,
that is enough for me.
But I will never keep quiet, because silence means approval.
Thank you for reading this letter.
All the best,
Your servant Kurangi dd
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Letter PAMHO:27560793 (128 lines) [W1] {I4}
From: Internet: "Kristina Kokolic"
Date: 14-Apr-15 20:46 -0400 (02:46 +0200)
To: Bhakti Vikasa Swami [189209]
To: Bhaktivaibhava Swami [53267]
To: "Bir Krishna Goswami"
To: Kavicandra Swami (GBC Japan) [138094]
To: Prahladananda Swami [153023] (received: 14-Apr-15 21:12 -0400)
To: Sacinandana Swami [43693]
To: Dina Sharana (dasi) ACBSP (Wiesbaden - DE) [29009] (received:
14-Apr-15 21:26 -0400)
To: GBC EC [87820] (received: 14-Apr-15 21:27 -0400)
To: "Gunnar Reimann"
To: "Kenneth Valpey"
To: Manohara das (Radhadesh - BE) [48789] (forwarded: 14-Apr-15
20:50 -0400)
To: "Radha Krisna das"
To: Euro RGB EC (Executive Committee) [5854]
Attached: 27560793.eml (23828 bytes) "Original email file"
Subject: FYI
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Dear everybody and dear Bir Krishna Goswami,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All gloeries to Srila Prabhupada!
I received this email from Bir Krishna Goswami, in which he stated that I
was not speaking the truth.
The fact is that when I had given him documents and proofs from the lawyer,
he was trying to convince me that this was not true. However, I still have
the audio recording of my conversation with BKG when documents were
presented to him. I will be glad to send this to everybody if BKG allows it.
In addition I have the audio recording of ista-gosti and more evidences.
Unfortunately, at that time I had to protect myself. What strength would
have my word against word of guru or GBC? But proofs and evidences are
different, it is now their own words against themselves.
Some of you might remember what happened at that time and know more details,
especially Kavicandra Swami and Brahma-Tirtha prabhu (USA) with whom I spent
hours and hours discussing that situation. It was not my intention now to go
back so much to history, but for everything I wrote I have evidence,
including audio recordings and written materials.
My mail which I had sent only to you, who are the members of investigation
team and relevant senior devotees, Bir Krishna Goswami forwarded to
Sundarananda d with remark that I was not talking the truth. After that,
Sundarananda sent this letter to a group of devotees, with the quote from
BKG who is asking why do I lie. As a consequence some of them contacted me,
being disturbed. And of course, they trusted Sundarananda d who reffered to
the statements of BKG... But fortunately the Lord Krishna knows everything.
What can I say now? Thank you Bir Krishna Goswami maharaja for first asking
me for clarification and then forwarding my mail and writing to others
before I even had any chance to reply. This what I had written, my first
mail, I sent it to you too. I am not a person doing things behind someone's
back. Neither do I have any type of position to use it. I don't think it was
proper to forward my mail and comment like this. What am I supposed to do
now, to send audio recordings to whole Croatia to prove the truth?
Those who want to see the truth, they will see it. Our deeds tell better
than words. By acting in this way, maharaja only expressed the type of
behaviour which I explained in my first mail.
Dear Bir Krishna Goswami, was this the win-win solution or the attempt of
yours and Sundarananda's to disqualify me, to try stopping me from telling
the truth? Does it not look like a good example of how we imidiatelly use
the position in order to protect ourself, how we easyly use our position
to"squash" another person for our protection? But why not to use this same
position to correct someone when the philosophy and teachings of Srila
Prabhupada should be protected, why not to squash someone's obvious
deviations from the Srila Prabhupada's teachings, why in this case win-win
solution is preffered to save someone who deviates?
I am sorry it happened like this, it was not my intention. My intention was
to present the relevant facts to the committee, and to give my view what is
reason behind the current situation in Zagreb temple and Croatia. I did not
write to the whole community, I presented my views only to you who are
trusted and responsible senior devotees. In my mail I wrote the facts and
can provide evidences, the situation in Zagreb is clear. Solution for such
situation was given by Srila Prabhupada, and that is the standards which
temple residents must follow. Please protect these standards.
Eventually, I feel important to point out, that my remark regarding BKG
maharaja was only in connection with his managerial role, his not reacting
timely to obvious deviations in the past, and now... I still respect and
appreciate him very much as our spiritual master and as a person who
dedicated his entire life for preaching.
ys Kurangi dd
Od: "b kgoswami"
Datum: 14. travnja 2015. u 00:31:12 CEST
Za: "'Kristina Kokolic'"
Predmet: RE: from Zagreb (Croation)
Just wondering why you told something that is not true to these people. I
did accept what you told me about the money situation and did remove the
persons you mentioned. There are many witnesses to this, including the
CNC.
Is there a reason why you did not tell the truth?
- First, with all due respect, I would like to mention HH Bir Krsna
Goswami. I respect and admire him for a lot of things, but I also find
that Bir Krsna Goswami easily puts his trust in people, often believes
their assertions and protects them without sufficient examination and
inquiry.
Proof for this: After I gave him documents composed by a lawyer which
proved that there was illegal money laundering transactions done by
Dadhibaksa d, Dinanatha d and Ripuha d, he rather chose to believe their
false story. Furthermore, he did not make any attempt to inspect and
examine the case.
Therefore, my conclusion was that his reaction was hasty. My opinion based on this experience regarding current problems in Zagreb temple is that Bir Krsna Goswami maybe needs to check this whole new situation again more thoroughly and carefully before making his conclusion..
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