Again, Main Challenges Go Unanswered!
BY: AMAR PURI
Apr 29, 2012 MONTREAL, QUEBEC, CANADA (SUN) With the kind permission of the writer of this article, may I bring out the facts that the writer Shriman Natabara das nowhere in his article mentions that if the Tantra Yoga occurs in the case of the Ascendant Lord Jupiter, Sagittarius rising sign in his collection of other horoscopes, thus, avoiding carefully and tactfully.
Here are the asserts:
" ……. In 2010, I found 239 horoscopes of famous people having tantra yogas and 43 of them have Jupiter association with Ketu forming two tantra yogas. One tantra yoga is formed when Jupiter is with Ketu, and the second tantra yoga is formed by Jupiter mutually aspecting Rahu. In general, astrologers only learn about the "Guru Chandala Yoga" formed by the association of Jupiter with Rahu or Ketu, but the followers of Harish Johari know well about this as "tantra yoga".
Shriman Natabara das keeps on emphasizing further in his writing,
" Anyway, according to my 2010 research on Tantra Yogas, John Dillinger has Jupiter and Ketu in the 9 house like Srila Prabhupada, although in Pisces. King Chulalonghorn has the same Tantra Yoga, but in Scorpio. Corazon Aquino has it as well, but in Leo."
Does the above mentioned example say that the rising sign as Sagittarius whose Lagnesh is Jupiter? No, not at all. So how can a wise person can give such an example to compare the others horoscope with that of HDG Srila Prabhupada's horoscope rising sign as Sagittarius, and insists it is an eternal debate? It does not make any sense, does it?
He goes on to say,
"Dillinger has Jupiter at 3' and therefore in its infancy. But we cannot say that infancy made him a villain, as we have to blame other planetary configurations. In astrology, as in palmistry, never a single pattern should be considered but the whole should be blended to have an accurate point of view."
When the planets are at early rising stage, the degree determines the strength of the planet besides the afflictions and/or placement of the planet. This is very basic understanding in reading the horoscope. Mind you, I do not have the qualification to teach and preach the principles of analytical approach of understanding the Vedic horoscope. That is not my purpose. The purpose is to determine and arrive at the basic understanding in order to know and decipher the actual reading of the chart by which one can identify exactly what lies ahead of the individual person's life while on this planet earth to alter ones' destiny and destiny of others.
As Shriman Natabara das states, "I understood well your argument that Jupiter weak as you say, "it can not deliver such a success as we have seen in the manifested Lila of Srila Prabhupada". It is appreciated that he noticed the point. He goes on to say, "I already indicated that saktyavesa avatar can overrule any shortcomings (if any). And in fact, even ordinary devotees can change their horoscopes by the grace of their gurus." ….. provided it is indicated in the chart, but the Sagittarius rising chart renders WEAK because of the Rahu's affliction to the Lagnesh Jupiter in Infancy, which sets the stage that the native's chart does not indicate as such, which he should please note.
Further he states, "My intention was not in "destroying" the arguments of the pro Capricornian ascendant because as I said, the debate will go on forever." It should not go on forever when any wise person determines the appropriate rising sign based on the manifested Lila of HDG Srila Prabhupada. He goes on saying, "But like you said, the pro Sagittarius lovers are very much keen to promote and create the obvious misleading notion to the readers by their fabulous philosophical explanation, which can bewilder the readers instantaneously." That fact is going on, isn't it? He says, "The same I could say of the pro Capricornian ascendant." I have stated analytically the reasons why Capricorn is the appropriate rising sign and none of the lovers or believers of the Sagittarius rising sign have brought out any disagreement indicating the problems which do not agree with the manifested Lila of Srila Prabhupada. He continues, "In my experience of more than 40 years in astrology, I see some points without any ending of debate. In other words, I have seen it before and this debate is never going to stop because of the difference in brains."
Therefore, in order to end and determine the appropriate rising sign of HDG Srila Prabhupada as accurate as it is according to His manifested Lila, the three main questions which were brought out in my various post do not correspond to the Sagittarius rising sign at all, whereas these three pointers strongly determine that Srila Prabhupada's rising sign is, indeed, the CAPRICORN.
Hope this meets you all well in cultivating Krsna Consciousness.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Hari BOL…. OM TAT SAT.
Yours insignificant servant,